February 2008 Archives

In the Ulster Unionist Party leaflet The East Belfast Voice it totally Ignores the plight of the long suffering people of Sydenham under the heading 'Garden Grabbing' it states Get rich Quick schemes shouldn't dramatically alter the East Belfast Landscape. On the subject of garden grabbing we the UUP are very concerned.Its clear that there are serious issues that need to be ironed out with regard to planning in suburban areas and we intend to push for laws to properly regulate the growing trend. We need to protect the heritage,integral identity and natural beauty of East Belfast. Areas such as Shandon Park, Belmont Road,and Ballyhackamore need protected from sub-urban get rich Quick phenomenon. We are not against enterprise just a fair set of ground rules. (End Quote) 

 

The Palmerston Residents Association says how could the Ulster Unionist Party make such a statement when the Sydenham area is being totally destroyed and our history being totally wiped out with homes like Westbank House being lost to the developers and now the Den the Home of Gustav Wolff on Station Road under threat and our history being totally wiped out.  The Unionist Party should walk down any of our main roads in the Sydenham Area to see what is going on in Sydenham they will see scenes like the one in the photo all around in fact its like a bomb site or deserted sites. Get Real Shandon Park, Belmont Road, and Ballyhackamore, would never be under the same threat as the Sydenham, planning just would not be granted.

The Palmerston Residents Association And The Inverary Community Group are fighting to save the Youth Club on the Palmerston Road In Sydenham Belfast Northern Ireland.  We have seen our area under immense developer Interest with planning being granted on many developments we are now seeing the prospect of one of our community facilities being torn down for community development of 6 Apartments. We have seen this facility lying in a state of decay for the past 2 years now, not by the fault of the community but by the fault of who let it be built and included asbestos, we have seen our youth in the area having no neutral space to claim as there own until the Belfast TS Formidable Sea Cadets.  They have been trying for the past 2 years to get this building as it was originally built for the youth of the area.  The cadets began negotiations with the BELB to try and acquire the building as a Sea Cadet Training Centre,  the cadets became aware of the difficulties other community groups where having in the area and formed a partnership with Inverary Community Group who stated an interest in having access to the building at certain times of the week for their work. The Sea Cadets have certain funding in place but were told by a third party in October and by the BELB in  December they wanted  £400000.00 for the site. The refurbishment costs required to the building is in the region of £150000.00 with the removal of the asbestos being priority.  We ask the BELB and our local councillors and MLAs why this was allowed to happen.  The Ts Formidable Sea Cadets have been in East Belfast since 1943 bar the last three years when they have been meeting at Kinnegar Cadet Training Centre in Holywood, whilst attempting to secure new premises in the East Belfast Area. We as a residents association and the Inverary Community feel that what the Sea Cadets can bring are vital for the Youth in the area.  We look to the BELB as the education Department to draw back on any plans to sell this facility and make it available to the youth in the area.  We also look to them as an education Department to put the youth in the area before money we see you have great opportunity to give the youth of the Sydenham Area and East Belfast  something that will help them to build their character in adult life and will help them understand the meaning of control in their lives.  If the Department fails to safe guard this centre for the youth in the area, then it fails the youth of the area of education and training for future life. We look to our councillors and our MLAs to stand up for the Youth in the Sydenham Area and make sure this centre stays in place for the Youth Of the Area. To us this should not be an issue we should not have to be protecting our youth from losing this centre as a place for education and learning. Our councillors, MLAs and Eductation Department should be doing this for us, after all that is  why they are in the positions they are and elected to Government this is our young peoples lives and we want them to have every opportunity that they can to make them better citizens and better prepared for their future and the Sea Cadets can do this, we should be thanking the sea cadets for wanting to come to the area.
 

Sydenham Youth Club & Belfast Sea Cadets

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Our chairman has previously written an article concerning Sydenham Youth Club and the T.S. Formidable Sea Cadets. The article is available online at http://the-association.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F9B9B074F766A228!275.entry.
The Residents Association has received some further information about the background to the story and would like to make our readers aware of the story.

T.S. Formidable Sea Cadets have been in the East Belfast area since 1943 bar the last three years when they have been meeting at Kinnegar Cadet Training Centre, Holywood whilst attempting to secure new premises in the East Belfast Area.

In late 2005 it became known that Sydenham Youth Club building had reduced numbers and due to required maintenenance work, was going to close.
As this building was purposely built for youth, the cadets began negotiations with the BELB to try to acquire the building as Sea Cadet Training Centre.
The cadets became aware of other difficulties other community groups were having in the area and formed a partnership with the Inverary Community Group who stated an interest in having access to the building at certain times through the week for their work.

The Sea Cadets have certain funding in place but were told by a third party in October and by BELB in December that the BELB want £400000.00 for the site. Refurbishment work required to the building is in
the region of £150000 with the removal of asbestos being a priority.

The building has gone through the normal Government process of disposal and the cadets have been informed that they need a Government Department to 'Sponsor' their interest to secure the building.
We feel that as the building is going to be used predominantly for Youth, the reason the building was constructed in the first place, that some sort of conclusion could have been brought by BELB to
allow the Sea Cadets to acquire the building at a preferential rate and for the Sea Cadets to refurbish it and open it as a Cadet Training Center and for use of local community groups.

The Sea Cadets do not have the amount that BELB are insisting upon and have been told that a Housing Association wants the site to place six apartments onto it.

The Association feel that it is vitally important that we raise the profile of this story amongst our readers and members. The Sea Cadets have funding in place for refurbishment and a plan to make the hall available to community groups.

The below photographs are courtesy of T.S. Formidable Sea Cadets.

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The views of Chairman Terry Hoey

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Terry, our chairman has written an article about his connection with the area. The article explains the motivation behind the formation of the resident's association.

This is some background as to why the Palmerston Residents Association was set up I will give you some of my background first,I was born in Northern Ireland on 29 March 1951 in the City Hospital my first home was in Bloomfield Crescent I lived there with my mum and dad and brother my dad worked in Harland and Wolff as a painter he died 10th November 1956 my gran and grandpa lived in Grace Ave Belfast we moved from Bloomfield Crescent when my mum married my stepfather,David Bunting we moved to his home on the Palmerston Road.

Palmerston Road at that time was very different from it is today it had less housing and a lot more trees with lots of plots in the area where you could buy flowers vegetables and potatoes, it was great with lots of children in the area I could not believe the size of the place coming from Bloomfield Crescent,at this time there was a lot of big houses in the area with lots of shops Victoria Road had a number of large houses on it the one that stands out the most would be Smiths House it was very large and the Gardens Stretched from the Shops on the corner of Victoria Ave to the end at the Rail Track.Palmerston Road had some big houses on it as well the one that stands out the most must be the Millers the house on the other side of the road from our house in fact I played with the kids who lived in it,the most impressive part of this house was the size of the garden at the front it stretched to the footpath on Palmerston Road with lots of trees in the garden the biggest one was a willow that stood in the drive way.

Inverary was where the prefabs use to be it was always a place you didn't like to go into or even a place you would cut through as a short cut very different to what it is today with its tree lined avenues I can remember the field where the Park on the Holywood Road is to day it is where two young children where killed trying to sail in a metal bath across an old bomb crater,Inverary and Palmerston always had it problems with different gangs fighting it out there was also plots at the corner of Station Road where the salvation army HQ is now I can remember my stepfather taking me there to buy tomatoes in fact you could buy just about anything in the Sydenham area and all grown in the area,Inverary Drive was best known for the Sydenham Station I can remember going to Bangor from it with its waiting room and log fire it was very welcoming, its flower bowls lined the platform it was very different to what it is to day,the thing that stands out the most was the shop just outside the station where the bridge is now it was made out of metal sheeting and it sold everything from sweets to fruit it then moved to the other side of the road to its much larger floor space in fact I had a paper round there.

Station Road was the road that stood out the most with its large houses and back gardens full of apple trees and pear trees I can remember being caught in a few of them taking apples and pears it was the main bus route to Sydenham Station in those days it was a number 75 got you to Sydenham and the bus route ended at the station I can always remember travelling up the station road on the back of my stepfathers motorbike on the way to Helens Bay he always told me about the history in the area and the great people who lived in it. I can remember him telling me about the Wolff's Den at the corner of the Station Road and Holywood road junctions and at that time the tenant was very different he was well known in the area for tarring the wall round it black and many people used to get it on there clothes so he was very unpopular.

The Schools in the area were great I attended them all my first school was Sydenham Infants I then went on to The Strand Primary School and then on to Ashfield Boys School on the Holywood Road I never liked school but I always went to it,I set up the Wildlife Youth Service in Ashfield school and used to run jumble sales to raise funds for what is now known as the World Wild Life Fund in fact it was the first in Northern Ireland at that time I can remember getting the Methodist Church hall on the Palmerston Road to hold my jumble sales in.I have always loved raising funds for animals it was just one of my causes that I felt had to be supported

I was married in July 1970 in St Brendans church Larkfield Road Sydenham to my wife Maureen we have a son called Jason, we lived in the area for some years before moving to England to work I have always returned home to Palmerston Road Sydenham as it always was home to Maureen and myself. We have travelled a lot mainly for my work as an engineer my type of work was not in Northern Ireland. Both my brother and my self worked in Harland and Wolff in fact that was where you started your first job in those days and then you moved on. My main interest in engineering was setting up different projects while working in research and development, I worked as a contractor for Remploy in England making attachments for machinery to help the disabled in their work I found this work very interesting and even today still enjoy this type of work although only in a voluntary capacity. My mother died on the 15th July 1997 and I have not worked since. I have Bipolar Depression and have lived with it for the past ten years and find the voluntary work I am involved in to be therapeutic and rewarding.

So why The Palmerston Residents Association I have always wanted to see a residents group in the area not just to fight Developers and the planning service but to see real change in the area and make it a better place for everyone to live in.Sydenham has had its problems in the past a lot of people have been out of work due to the heavy industry closing down and a lot of our senior citizens have died or moved out of the area we see the decay of years of under investment in the area and the lack of any type of community development in the area. We have seen the developers move in and rip down the history of the area without giving a thought of what the community wants, in fact no one has ever ask the community. We see lots of new apartments being built but what are they doing for the community, Sydenham as I said earlier once had shops and corner shops that the communities used to meet in and talk about the weather or the price of bread. These shops have all but gone and replaced by apartments places that are communities of their own not the type of community built projects that are needed for Sydenham. The area is undergoing massive change and the population is growing very fast in fact too fast in some ways not giving the community a chance to bond with its self. It is time to let the community accept the change that is now taking place we need to step back a bit and think what is taking place and how it will affect the future of the area. Sydenham has got many middle aged people that will be taking the place of our older generation but this fact seems to be lost on the planners.Apartments that are being built do not suit the needs of the Community we see people retiring from work earlier and want to down size from a house to an apartment while looking at their future they do not want to buy something that they will have to move from, or for that matter give up because they become ill and cannot climb the stairs any longer.The reasons people move are not have to climb stars any longer yet these apartments have nothing only stairs so surely this needs to be looked at. We hear a lot talked about building a better community yet we do not get the tools to do it. It takes time to build trust and hours to lose it we need to see reinvestment in the area we need to bring back the shops that have been lost to the Developers,we also need more neutral meeting areas to enable the community to bond.

The Residents Association over the past nine months has worked hard to bring about change to the community even in the the structure in how it is set up brings the different communities together having different people from different streets helps to break down the barriers and give a sense of community the need for this in the area is paramount by building the residents association in this way lets other people from other streets become involved this will not happen overnight it will take time but we hope it will bring a better future for us all and give back the community spirit which has been lost.

Chairman
Terry Hoey

The Palmerston Residents Association Believes that the youth club could be turned over to Social Housing for the area, the residents association met with councillors for the area in July 2007 and this issue was brought up at that time we were informed the building would be used for the sea cadets, while still retaining it for the benefit of the youth.The residents association feels that to change this site to any other use would be wrong we feel that any form of apartment development would be a disaster it would mean that the junction to Station Road would be permanently blocked by parked cars. The bus stop is also sited at that corner this would add more problems to the bus route we are always fearful that the route becomes to overcrowded and would be taken out of service all together due to parking conditions in the general area. To lose this site to any form of housing would be wrong and it should be given over permanently for the use of the community or the sea cadets this building has been left unattended and in a run down condition for some time this is not the fault of the community as we regard it to be an asset to the community   

5 Inverary Drive Sydenham

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We are sorry to say that the above property is now being demolished to make way for apartments photos our now on flickr for anyone who wishes to veiw them
Proposed Change of use of No 75 Victoria Road from semi-detached dwelling to 2No apartments units retaining existing facades and the construction of 34 new build apartment units including demolition of 67-75 Victoria Road The planning Department has granted permission for this development
We are pleased to welcome Chris Deconnink of the East Belfast Community Development Agency of 129 Albertbridge Road Belfast BT5 4PY to sit on the Palmerston Residents Association Executive Committee the East Belfast Community Development Agency (EBCDA) surports the Development of a co-ordinated community sector in East Belfast. The (EDCDA) is the umbrella organisation'supporting community development in East Belfast membership is made up of community groups drawn from the area that contains almost 120,000 people. it is representative of a broad range of intrest and needs with in the communities and encompasses a variety of groups,including local residents,associations,faith based organisations,sports clubs,older people projects,and womens groups. His Role in(EBCDA) is Manager of the Sydenham Area we feel Chris will be a valuble member of the Association and we welcome him to the Palmerston Residents Association.
The Residents Association would like thank Cllr.Naomi Long Deputy Leader of the Alliance Party East Belfast Assembly Member, for her support in the fight to save Gustav Wilhelm Wolff  home at the Den Station Road Sydenham Belfast Northern Ireland. The residents association are trying to save this site as an East Belfast Heritage Site for Shipbuilding in East Belfast saving it for our childern and looking after their Heritage.  

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